Liar. They did it in Moss, Norway in 2021. I have pictures from skaters I know personally there who cleaned it up. We exchanged those pictures because they did the same thing here. Perhaps your favorite far-left media outlet didn't get the story, but I actually know 10+ people who live there and three of them are skaters (two inliners, one skateboarder).

I notice you had nothing to say about the concrete examples. You just glossed over those and ignored what you could not rebut.

Guess you haven't been to the USA. Guns, drugs, prostitution: are all allowed in various degrees. Some areas are more restricted and Norwegian-like than others (ie.. Commiefornia). However, if you even try to spark a jay in Norway, you're going to jail quick there Mr. Freedom. Hell if you even have bud you're a criminal in Norway. Great "liberalism" on display there, pal.

Where are they more permissive exactly ? Ah, is this the "Freedom to censor your neighbor", "Freedom to control other people's movement", or "Freedom to fuck up your neighbors kids education?" which one is it that you are referring to? Not that they didn't do that exact shit right here in the USA, too, but you just said "real freedom" and made it a contrast; so prove it!

No, you apparently would want to send them to a liberal political retreat on Utøya island to get shot and blown up by native son Anders Brevik, who walked through your gun restrictions like they were made outta snow, then you'd have your authorities run around like Keystone Cops unable to even find guns to fight back for 65 minutes while they cowered and sank overloaded boats (thought you guys liked boats and understood them) trying to get to the island. All this in the deadliest mass shooting by a single gunman in peacetime. Looks like all those restrictions failed and you don't exactly have the moral high ground for SHIT.

I made statements you could either try to refute or agree with. Instead you're gonna whine like a bitch and check out because someone used a phrase you don't like? Oh, you poor thing! That sounds a lot like the kind of snooty butthurt censorship we saw during CV19. If you tell me you're Norwegian from Oslo, I'm going to believe you wholeheartedly.

Actually, I'd say just submissive in general. Most Norwegian men are very quiet and submissive in general, just waiting for some woman to tell them what's allowed. In my experience (mostly in Southern Norway around Moss) it's just a cultural norm. Norwegian men have to jump through flaming hoops just to buy a hunting rifle, asking permission from a horde of beurocrats. Sounds pretty submissive to me. That's one of a thousand reasons why foreigners in Norway call it "NO way". Whatever it is: drugs, guns, prostitution, cars, smoking anywhere but your home closet, doing business on Sunday, etc... You just can't because some official woman or man-bitch decided you can't.

I guess that totally depends on how someone randomly defines "rational liberalism". Since you fail to do so, it seems you can make whatever claims that you want. Let me ask you, was it "rational liberalism" that caused the Norwegian government to ban overnight stays in cabins "because covid" ? If so, let's hear how "rational" that explanation sounds right now. Was it smart and rational to shut down all the schools even though kids barely suffer much less and have much lower risk of complications from CV19? Does the fact that Norway's own Corona Commission report highlights these poor decisions directly cause you any cognitive dissonance?

No, but the ire and irrational head-explosions from people like you are quite satisfying. Cry harder.

Yeah, they were dumping sand in skate parks just like the rest of the idiot-conformist-authoritarians were. Great "science" that forced kids out of the UV light and fresh air and into basements playing video games together. Tell me was the censorship "scientific" and based on germ-theory too, genius ?

Lol, your wife is calling. Straighten your blue wig, get back to changing those diapers, and finish the rest of your soymilk, bruh. Oh, and don't forget to wax mama's EV minivan before soccer practice and the PTA meeting tonight, tough guy.

I lived in Norway for about a year and a half and have been back several times since then. I still have a lot of Norwegian friends and can function på norsk, as well. The Norwegian government is much better run that the US government. That is undeniable. Their civil structure (police, local governance, NAV welfare, etc..) is more effective and has less fraud and abuse. However, something like this potential law in Norway would be a tough sell. Their culture is very submissive to power. CV19 compliance there was near universal with very few questioning anything, no matter how ridiculous. I'm VERY surprised just to see this right-to-repair effort get off the ground and very skeptical it'll succeed at all in Norway. In my experience, they would be much more likely to give the government or a private company some special privilege to enshitify as they please or make everything a black box: as long as they virtue signaled properly beforehand with a statement on their LGBTQTIA2S+ policy and gave to a trans-kids charity or something. Most of the Norwegian youth is beyond help with their batshit crazy liberalism. They make the kids in Queens look like a bunch of Hitler Youth.

Slashdot is now 80% EV and climate doomer stories, now. Most of you activist-minded wackos are extremely annoying like that one Uncle at Thanksgiving that can't stop talking about religion and politics constantly when the rest of us still wish we could talk about *nix or programming. The stories aren't balanced in the slightest, either, it's just preachy propaganda so more moral weaklings on the same brainwave can weight in and demonize the US, "toxic masculinity", poor people by proxy (as all EV stories do), white folks, or some other blue-haired concern. You also sound like bitchmade girly-men who were brainwashed by liberal schoolteacher women and have no identity beyond what you wife tells you to say.

I'll drive my stick-shift sportscars until the end of time and you can all blow me.

One cherry picked study does not make your case. That 2018 University of Virginia study (Pianta & Ansari) you're waving around is a classic cherry-picked talking point from voucher opponents; it's narrow, outdated, and doesn't hold up against broader evidence.

First, the study itself is limited as hell. It tracked just 1,300 kids born in 1991 (now in their mid-30s) through ninth grade only, across 10 U.S. locations. The lead author even admitted private schools are "heterogeneous" (some great, some meh), and it focused on ninth-grade outcomes; no long-term stuff like college completion, earnings, etc... It's basically saying: rich, involved parents produce high-achieving kids, and those parents are more likely to choose private schools. Duh. But that doesn't prove private schools add zero value: it means the study couldn't isolate school effects perfectly in its small sample.

Now, the bigger picture crushes this narrative. Multiple large-scale, more rigorous sources show private schools do deliver better results even after controlling for socioeconomic status, family background, demographics, and especially on long-term outcomes that matter most.

Longitudinal data from the National Longitudinal Study of 2002 (and related analyses via CAPE) tracks thousands of students from 8th grade onward. Even after adjusting for class, private school attendees are twice as likely (52% vs. 26%) to earn a bachelor's degree by their mid-20s. For poorer students specifically, the private advantage is even larger: nearly four times higher bachelor's attainment rates compared to similar public school peers. That's not disappearing results; that's massive, life-changing impact.

Voucher and choice program studies (real-world "same population" comparisons via lotteries/random assignment) often show private options outperforming or matching publics at lower cost. For instance, Milwaukee's long-running program (with state Report Card data) finds private/choice schools 33–76% more cost-effective on achievement per dollar. Low-income urban kids in these programs frequently see gains in reading/math that hold up after controls.

Broader NAEP and international data reinforce this: Private students consistently score higher on national tests, and in many cases (especially religious/Catholic schools for disadvantaged groups), advantages persist or grow after socio-economic-status controls.

Your link is one narrow snapshot that ignores decades of counter-evidence, probably chosen by you for partisan reasons only. Research is mixed because private schools aren't monolithic: elite prep schools cost a fortune and select top kids, while average religious/private ones serve diverse populations at lower tuition and punch way above their weight on outcomes. But claiming "the difference basically disappears" is intellectually lazy bullshit when long-term attainment, efficiency in choice programs, and adjusted NAEP gaps tell a very different story. You're basically lying to protect teachers at the cost of student outcomes. That's real damage and real evil and you're pushing it for political reasons (you're obviously very far left judging from your posts).

Yeah, except for that being total bullshit. So you heard some red meat on a far a left radio station like WBUR. So what? The actual body of research and evidence show exactly the opposite of this one tiny and poorly conducted study. You are literally advocating for beurocrats over kids because of your religious (uh, I mean "political" but in your case: same thing) beliefs that will never change in the face of any actual evidence. Anyone who's actually been to both types of schools (or thinks about it for @ 5 seconds) like myself already knows this. There are extreme qualitative differences.

Thanks for relating those two things. I enjoyed hearing I'm not the only alien who thinks this way.

Uhh, not to take away from your other points, but I'd like to point out that factually the whole thesis for the article is pretty shakey. America is the top destination for migrants in terms of desirability. They want to come to the USA more than other places. That's just a simple fact. Another fact is that net migration inbound is much greater (1.3M to 2.7M more positive on the inbound side than the outbound).

So, I get that it's all the rage in EU to bash the USA, and yeah, okay whatever, but let's at least have the discussion with those two facts on the table too along with the "More people than usual left the USA for other places." bit.

I knew home-schooled kids who's textbooks were from the 1930's ("just for fun sometimes") they outscored nearly all my public school peers on standardized tests.

Also, I once replaced a bunch of greenscreen terminals at a furniture company. About six months after I got a call from the CTO who wanted the terminals back. Apparently, the workers were wasted WAY less time playing games and browsing the web when they had terminals and they were now getting infections on the PCs as well as people running or staying in apps they were never meant to even use at work. These folks were pissed when I took their PCs away and put the terminals back. Well, all but one of them. There was this lady who knew all the keyboard shortcuts to their text-user-interface forms and she was glad to have them back because she could fly through that app so fast with her muscle memory.

I thought for sure they'd revert back to PCs after a user-pitchfork-rebellion. Nope. They called me about six years later and I replaced the green screen CRT based terminals (Wyse 99GT's) with DEC VT525's that just used regular VGA style output and PS/2 keyboards. Then another few years later, flatscreens on the VT525's they already had. They are still using them more than 20 years later. The have the same C-level guy who simply will not relent. They have modern operations with wireless serial hand scanners for inventory and all kinds of ways to keep the old application online and working while gaining a bit of efficiency with new tech like wifi. Somewhere there's a Microsoft account rep crying himself to sleep over all the licensing fees this company never paid them.

They have been making these hyperventillating failed Hyperventillating predictions for more than 50 years. Nobody seems to be held accountable when they blatantly lie then get the predictions dead wrong.

Correct. I'm just here for the lols. I would never try to engage you in an "earnest discussion", I'm not that masochistic, Comrade.

You're a Communist. You're opinion doesn't mean shit.